Avoiding Symmetry when Drawing Triceps – Anatomy Critique

Avoiding Symmetry when Drawing Triceps – Anatomy Critique

Hey guys, welcome to another critique video. I got a bunch of new submissions from you
ready to be destroyed. Just kidding, I’m gonna try to be nice. You guys are doing a great job. Thank you, for everybody who’s submitting
all their assignments in the Facebook group. You guys are doing a good job, but I noticed
in this one that there were a lot of very similar errors. For those of you who didn’t submit any assignments,
since there are so many people doing the same few common things, there’s probably a good
chance that your doing the same thing so pay attention. These are common mistakes that I’m seeing
with the triceps. I’m gonna go ahead and get started. The first submission is from Eryk. Poke Place? All right Eryk. So, I wanna start off by saying I really like
the way you’re studying. You’re taking notes as you’re watching the
videos. So that’s a lot better way of retaining the
information. If you just watch the videos, you know, you’ll
remember some of it. But if you actually take notes you write down
the things that you didn’t already know, you draw little diagrams of the things that you’re
learning much more likely that you’re gonna remember this stuff if you actually take notes
and you draw. So great job in the way you’re studying. I wanna point out a few things a few little
notes that you took. This is great, the shape of the tendon that’s
a very important one when you’re drawing triceps and specifically this last one. This shape here because that’s really the
final shape. The the four shapes you drew, that was kinda
like me describing how the actual shape of the tendon differs from just a vertical box
with like a house roof on top. So the final shape that we actually want to
look for is this bottom right one that you drew. The things that are important to know about
that shape, this top plane is diagonal and this one is a little bit more vertical. So the one on the right, the lateral one,
is…it’s diagonal, but it’s almost horizontal. The medial one is diagonal but it’s more vertical. So they’re not like this, they’re not symmetrical. And then also the fact that the tendon overall
has an angle to it going outward. So with that in mind let’s look at these two
drawings you did here. This first one look at the tendon shape you
drew, you drew the first one it’s not correct. You gotta look for the roof going like this
with a little shorter one here. Also, it’s a little bit longer or it should
be a little bit longer than you indicated probably up to here. The tendon varies a little bit. Some people have very short tendons some very
long tendons, but in general when you’re learning these diagrams you’re kind of just creating
like a idealized version, right? You’re not drawing anybody specific. So when you’re drawing these idealized diagrams
try to draw an actual idealized version. And short tendons like this, short symmetrical
tendons like this, are not idealized. This right here, that’s the idealized version. So one of the most common issues that I’m
seeing with you guys in these triceps assignments is symmetry. Too much symmetry. Let’s look at this muscle. We already talked about the tendon being symmetrical,
but there’s also the muscle bellies. These shapes that you drew, they’re two exact
same shapes, they’re at the same level, they’re are the same size, and they attach to the
tendon in the same way. They’re way too symmetrical. What you wanna look for is the lateral head
being much shorter. So let me erase these little notes that I
got start a fresh page. The first thing you wanna look at or think
about is the angle of the apex points from lateral to long head. So for example, on this one kinda like the
middle is like right there, right? The apex of that curve is right there. On this one the apex is probably a little
bit lower on yours. So you kinda have an angle like this, because
this muscle is going all the way down here. It’s gonna be the opposite, you wanna look
for an angle this way. So let’s draw a better tendon in here, something
like that, that’s the tendon shape we’re gonna see. So this shape I like for the long head you
did a good job. But then the lateral head, this is the apex
here, I’m gonna draw the lateral head apex all the way up here. And then you can do a little tail coming down
from that. And then medial head, don’t forget about the
medial head. Okay, so that’s how you’re gonna find asymmetry
this is gonna be a repeating thing I’m gonna mention throughout these critiques, because
a lot of you guys are doing this. But, on your second page I notice that there
were a few of them in here that you did add asymmetry to so that’s good. This one is a little a bit more horizontal
and then more vertical. And this one with a little bit lower long
head, a little bit higher lateral head so that’s good asymmetry. Also the tendon shape is a little bit better. But, in here you kind of have two of the same
shapes again. So I would have brought this one up made it
a little bit more horizontal. Same thing here too much symmetry. Same thing here too much symmetry. And then also you labeled medium head, you
probably mean the medial head, but I don’t see it on your drawing, right? It would be right through here. Remember it lies under the tendon. And it kinda pokes out mostly on the inside
of the arm but sometimes a little bit on the outside as well. And this tendon is way too short. It would be like that, that long. But I do wanna point out one more thing that
you’re doing that’s actually really good. I like how your containing your shadow shapes. You see how you have this really nice outline? You could have adjusted or been a little more
specific with the edge that you’re using. You’re using a hard edge around all of these
in this drawing specifically. Try to put some softer edges, some firmer
edges. Vary up the edge a little bit to describe
the form better. But the fact that you’re containing your shapes,
you’re gonna get a good three dimensional feel already, just by really clearly separating
a light plane from a shadow plane. And the reason I’m bringing this up is because
you’ll see in some of the future critiques in this lesson, I point out a few of you guys
are not containing your shapes very well. You’re using crosshatching but it’s very ambiguous,
very soft and incomplete and the forms don’t look very three dimensional. So you’ll see that later on and this is a
good example of somebody who is containing the shapes. So keep that in mind. All right, that’s it. I hope you guys enjoyed this lesson. If you did there’s a bunch of other critiques
in the premium section. I go over a few of the other common mistakes
I noticed for the triceps lesson I talk about asymmetry, avoiding just bubbly shapes- bubbly
forms and just trying to make your arms more dynamic. I talk a little bit about shading and how
to not just do 2 dimensional shapes and all that stuff. So a lot more stuff in the premium section,
if you want to go check it out it’s at proko.com/anatomy. And don’t forget to subscribe to the newsletter
at proko.com/subscribe. Alright guys thanks for your support. Bye.

23 Replies to “Avoiding Symmetry when Drawing Triceps – Anatomy Critique”

  1. I really like how Eryk took notes on the triceps lesson before he did the assignment. It shows he’s serious about learning the information and figuring out what to apply to his drawings before attempting them. Everyone should do more of that…especially when the hands lessons begin.

  2. Can't just be me that thought, at first glance, that the thumbnail showed some odd looking penis.. What has the internet done to me?

  3. I don't watch these critique videos often, but I'd just like to point out something I really liked about watching them this time around:
    It wasn't all negative. Stan made sure to point out a lot of things people did right or at least pretty well. I really feel like an issue with previous critiques I've watched is that they're heavily negative and critical. Of course, pointing out the flaws is super important, but it just always felt too harsh and aggressive. Adding more of those positives in helped make the critiques feel more constructive and encouraging. I really hope you continue to do that, Stan. Pointing out the good is just as important as pointing out the bad. You need to find the best balance you can between the two in critiquing.

  4. Hey, bubbly is good! Bubble but– Oh, you're talking about arms. O-kaaaayyy…. nm me, I'll just… I'll just… just… stop.

  5. I'm a new subscriber, and as a desperate teen to learn anatomy i found this video very helpful (as well as your other videos)! 😀
    can you make a tutorial on folds on clothes someday?

  6. I'm having a very hard time with proportions, do you have any videos or tricks to help or explain this? thank you to anyone who responds

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