The Protein Combining Myth

The Protein Combining Myth


100 Replies to “The Protein Combining Myth”

  1. I'm so pissed. This protein combining thing was taught in my nutrition class in college about 5 years ago. Can I get a refund for all my debt? -.-

  2. Turns out our bodies are not stupid after all! Hahaha I loved this and really needed to hear it as I have been thinking about this latelty, thanks so much doctor! Your videos are amazing#!

  3. So pretty much, you just don't have to eat beans and rice together in a single meal as long as you are actively eating both of them in a total diet.

    I still like to combine beans and rice or Split peas and Lentils.

    Tastes good, and offers good texture feed back.
    Aaaaand it happens to carry the added bonus of being more complete.

    Even If it's not necessary.

  4. is this video relevant bodybuilders? I mean there are many bodybuilders who switched to a vegan diet and doing so caused them to lose muscle mass by not being able to maintain them. I know that they took in more protein because the bioavailability of protein from plants was extremely low and even then they still couldn't maintain their muscle mass. is plant protein just inferior to meat protein? science says one thing but then you have proof from people who have lost muscle mass because they went vegan. im confused

  5. This is something that I always think about. People ALWAYS talk about protein and "where you gonna get your protein?". That is the least of a veg eaters worries! When people ask that question it proves their ignorance.

  6. +Nutritionfacts.org But i dont understand. So if a person eats just broccoli for example, then does that mean that our essential amino acid requirements are met? Which foods contain which amino acids and in what proportions? Too many loose ends in this video for me.

  7. Once again thank you Dr Greger for sharing this amazing knowledge with us all, I feel honoured to receive it. I must tell you I just received "How Not To Die" in the post last week. I'm pretty sure I ordered one copy, but Amazon sent me two!

    Either way if I did pay for two it is no worry, I can't wait to start reading it and I will give the other away as a gift to someone who deserves it 🙂

  8. It's a disgrace that most doctors lack the level of knowledge on nutrition to adequately prevent disease formation and any further metastasis. But, again, the industry of pharmaceuticals won't flourish on competent citizens.

  9. Is Michael Greger s resaerch valid?
    Like there are some paid studdys, some studys that support a movement like the vegan 1.
    I mean thear is also the lchf experts and nutritionist an people claiming that they are healthyer and more energetic on it have way better blood work and stuff like that.
    I want some proff that he has valid information.

  10. I get the impression that this dr wants people to stop eating meat…that makes me want to eat more meat.

  11. I have a family member who really wants to build muscle and follows body builders, and tries to eat like them. I'm vegan and trying to show them that they really don't need animal protein. These body builders talk about how animal protein is more easily absorbed into the body than plant protein. I'm trying to find some evidence of this. Does anyone know if this is true or have any resources on this in particular?

  12. My RD from KP told me "you cannot eat only plant protein" you must eat animals to get all your nutrition….she sat there with all her fake meat for display>barf and I had to pay 20.00 for that consult. Ohhh and only 2 fruits a day because it has carbs and natural sugar.

  13. Hi, I'm trying to construct/understand, fully, the argument to refute/debunk the food combining myth. Directly and with scientific sources. However, many materials, even the video above, use slightly roundabout ways to present the case, and oftern do not directly address it. I have a friend who recently did a training where they were specifically taught this theory and her being straight out of training, my unresearched arguments are weaker. "This is not true" is not an argument, that is a claim. An argument would contain proof and sources. The video above, which I found whilst searching for material, both scientific and popular, does not present the full argument. The articles flashed on the screen look scientific but the titles do not direclty address the quesion (I will nevertheless try and look them up, to see, if their bodies do). It can be seen as using roundabout pointers. In myth debunking this leaves too much room for potential other fallacies. So can someone help me with either constructing the argument or at least point out scientific evidence to counter the claims of food combining? I'm confortable with dwelling into scientific papers, but one needs to dive in from the right end of the pool, with right keywords to avoid wasting time. And by looking at both sides, independently of what one believes or wants to believe. I might end up with the construction of convincing opposite arguments as well. Whatever the data.

  14. The sad thing is that even Vegans seems to still be as obsessed with "proteins" as the average carnist.
    In reality we don't need to be thinking about trying to get enough protein.
    You can completely throw out the beans, lentils, nuts and seeds and still be perfectly fine.
    Eating fruits and greens exclusively will give about the same amount of proteins/aminos per calorie as mothers milk.
    Plenty enough to build strength and perfect health.

  15. Key concept is "typical american diet". Which produces an overweight to obese population. But why? A look at the "requirement index" shows that milk and eggs are both in the high 90 % range and are called complete foods because of this. Whole grains are in the 76 to 82% range and peanuts are 67%. Meats, not listed, are higher than grains but lower then say, eggs. Now what does this mean? To me, if you only eat uncombined foods, you need 50% more peanuts(67% plus 50 % of 67% , or 33% equal 100%, no?) to get enough essential amino acids to supply enough for the body to have the the100% complete protein needed to live. Where does the remainder protein go? Some can be used by the body as energy, but some is also stored until the body gets the missing amino acids needed to make it useful for the body. This is called by normal language, fat. That is one reason why the "typical american diet" is so high in calories. Look at nations where excessive calories in the diet are either not available or too expensive and see what they eat. Cuba for example. There is a Cuban joke the goes:- In Cuba we eat beans and rice for breakfast, rice and beans for lunch and Moros and Chritianos for dinner (read:- beans and rice). There are not many fat Cubans but there are many healthy ones! India and African, same thing. No, you do not have to combein foods to get a better protein complex, unless you do not want the typical american diet.

  16. Thank you so much, that is such a great information for me …. I´ve spent hours of searching for "good" combinations from vegan sources.

  17. Jesus, i was in nutrition class and hearing my teacher telling all the jokes i mean jocks about protein combining just made me wanna flip a table, i have many regrets

  18. I knew about the fact that it is not necessary to combine food at each meal.

    But still i'm confused about something, according to the video i don't need to worry about combining my food like… AT ALL? Like let's say that for a week, i don't feel like eating any whole grain food… It's okay to just eat lentils, beans, vegetables without worrying about that 'combine whole grain and beans' argument?

    Hope i'm clear enough, i'm not english native, it is not even my second language.

  19. But you're body can't keep making up the protien that you need to complete it it's not some magical unlimited supply

  20. hi doctor can u make a video about PDCAAS .

    I am a vegan powerlifter since 2 months and I don't feel like I am recovering after my workout like before. I am eating the same amount of protein but they are from plants. so bioavailability of them is not as high as meat or animal protein.

  21. A million thanks. This video along with many others of yours have been life changing. I have my energy back. Thank you again.

  22. Isn't lysine typically hard to get enough of if you don't eat beans? So, then, minus beans, it seems fairly easy to design a diet that is deficient. I mean, if you eat less lysine than is needed every day, the "pools" of amino acids that the body has access to is going to be deficient in lysine. Isn't this true? If the RDAs are correct that is?

  23. Oh wow. I have been vegan for a year and I didn't know up until now that the protein combining was a myth. So many misinformed vegan advocates out there that don't even give the right advice. Thank you dr Greger!!!!!

  24. If you want to prove your point, help a vegan cyclist race at the Tour de France. Then we can discuss whether complete protein is a myth.

  25. Phenylalanine was found exclusively in animal products prior to the agricultural era. Had it not been for thousands of years of cultivation and trade allowing people from all over the world to eat man-made nutritional 'powerhouses', most of humanity would have died eradicating meat from their diet.

    You can live off of plants NOW, but even then you run into problems sourcing your amino acids from specific foods (estrogenic properties, raw veganism being a myth (soy is poisonous raw), consumption of phytic acid, and still tons of vitamin deficiencies). We didn't get our B12 from water; Veganism is still bullshit.

  26. My biology teacher was teaching us about how plant proteins are incomplete. I wish I knew this at the time. It sucks how much we are miseducated because of all the myths that have gone mainstream, and now people don't know how to eat healthy.

  27. I just took an online course, allegedly supported by Stanford university, and it had that protein myth about combining proteins in it! I guess I knew the course was a low quality one when they preached healthy eating and then proceeded to promote recipes full of eggs, diary and oils….
    Thanks Dr. Greger and Team

  28. The other day somebody asked me to show the evidence, since Harvard “proved” this and no science has proven otherwise.
    I feel like that seagull at the very end when I hear the word “protein” 😑
    /plantbased for 15 yrs and counting

  29. So could i be healthy on a variety of fruits and vegetables without eating grains and legumes or seeds? Just strictly vegetables and fruits??

  30. This video is a complete joke. You know people can READ right? Especially at 2:50 and 3:07 The bullshit you're saying doesn't match the science papers you're showing. Especially at 3:07 you say with condescension "no need to combine" .. when the fucking statement clearly reads "as long as sources are — VARIED"

    The response from AHA is NOT that any single plant has complete protein, as it doesn't, but infact that IF you're eating rich DIET of varied vegan based foods, then you'll end up with enough protein.

    That CONFIRMS protein combining.

  31. Isn't the idea behind incomplete proteins the ratio of certain amino acids to others or even absence of some amino acids? (like essentials vs non-essential)
    So saying they are incomplete may technically be wrong, but if you take incomplete to mean not optimal human use or not containing all of our essential and semi-essential amino acids, would that also be a myth, or does that interpretation actually have some validity?
    It could very well be the case that proteins from meat are more optimized for say muscle growth, because it's already a muscle, whereas plant-bodies are very different from our bodies in terms of structure. I haven't looked into the research on this, but if anyone who has cares to comment on this, I would be very interested to know if what I just said holds any truth.

  32. So i don't have to combine meats? Any meat will give me all the proteins my body needs?
    Great, because eating meat has been a tradition in my family for millions of years.

  33. Sun, cholesterol and a series of skin interactions that can be easily interrupted by washing / water / sun-blocker provides vitamin D to the body. Let's hear it for cholesterol, which if we have too little actually shortens our lives or even kills us. Our body actually produces a lot of cholesterol, unlike vitamin C (which almost every other creature out there does make). We can survive without much vitamin C, but apparently we cannot survive without cholesterol. Perhaps we can fix the gene that is supposed to make vitamin C, but I have not heard anyone propose that.

  34. I would drink rat milk, who cares, its just your mind getting in the way to eat this but not that. the fact of the matter is most vegans went vegan then learned how to defend it as yhe superior way of eating, not the other way around. its all a superiority complex, they like to look down at others who arent vegan as less than and gonna die a miserable death while vegans fart rainblows and pee pure mango juice.

  35. where can i find more info about plants producing amoni acids while humans and animals just recycle them.
    all i find is info about humans and animals producing non essential amino acids themselves

  36. What foods should you eat to cure nocturia/frequent urination? I want to eat plant-based and am under the impression that amino acids can heal the bladder/these problems. I remember drinking bone broth with plenty of gelatin and was able to sleep without waking up at all that night. I haven't been able to do that for years.

  37. Real gotcha moment when you caught AHA saying "you need to eat multiple plant protein sources" and then correcting it with "you need to eat multiple plant protein sources"

    If you're going to misrepresent what sources actually say, don't quote them.

  38. While you don’t need to combine your proteins in your meal, but you do need to make sure you are getting a variety of amino acids at sometime for your body to consume them. If you are deficit from eating them, your body can’t store and allocate them.

  39. 1:30 “The concept that plant protein was inferior to animal protein arose from studies performed on rodents more than a century ago. Scientists found that infant rats don’t grow as well on plants. But infant rats don’t grow as well on human breast milk either…”

  40. If plant proteins are complete then why do my muscles take longer to recover then?

    Wait a minute… so if the body has an amino acid pool… the pool needs to be filled doesn't it? With essential amino acids which the body can not produce on its own. So yeah at some point you will need to eat to complete the incomplete protein…

  41. Wow the people who follow this channel and don't do any fact checking are fucking brain dead. You are so self absorbed in your vegan bullshit lifestyle you have no idea this guy is full of shit.

  42. Wait…he said the body strips and recycles protein from itself. Isn't it bad when the body strips off protein? When it does this with calcium with pregnant mothers it causes bone loss and bad teeth, How is the protein thing different?

  43. According to Chronometer, spinach does not have methionine nor trypophan and is low in all the rest, too (,01 gram 3 cup serving)

  44. Can you do a video on strength resistance training with weights. This video suggests that protein isn't as necessary for that as well.

  45. Science without common sense has always resulted in dietary fallacy. You can even question NutritionFacts.org for recommending the direct consumption of plant reproductive material . Not only are beans, seeds, whole grains, ,rice etc protected by Anti-nutrients and damage the gut. The benefits they are touting are bio-unavailable until sprouting and germination takes place. Remember if you can't consume something raw without some form of process like cooking, chances are nature never intended it to be a dietary staple.

  46. Then, could you make a video explaining which are the health issues a 100% plan based protein could bring, such as SiBO and so? please. Love your videos

  47. Another question. If animals obtain their protein from plants too, then why does we obtain more protein from cows than from other animals?

  48. I agree with the basic idea that vegans overthink protein. For instance, I just tallied up what I ate today, which I don't usually do. I got about 44% of my protein from legumes, 32% from vegetables, 12% from nuts and seeds, 10% from grains, with the remaining points being fruit and me being lazy with rounding. Despite getting about 75% of my protein from food with the same limiting acid, I'm still definitely fine. And so are most vegans.

    That said, you DO need to have a varied diet. If you get a lot of vegetable protein at dinner, and have some grains or nuts in the evening, you're groovy. It doesn't have to be the same meal. Or even every day, our body can compensate for shortfalls by recycling protein. But if you CHRONICALLY get all your protein from a single source like grain, you'll eventually have protein problems. But eating such a stupidly one-dimensional diet is inherently unhealthy, whether you're vegan or a traditional omnivore, and protein is just one facet of the unhealthiness.

    So basically, yes, limiting amino acids are real, and most plant proteins are "incomplete". But a vegan with a healthy and varied diet doesn't need to consciously think about it at all. Which is really the take-away.

  49. This is good evidence that plants can offer sufficient protein with no meat. But this is poor evidence that a single-source plant can offer sufficient protein.

    The very quote you cite says that plant proteins are sufficient "as long as sources of dietary protein are varied." Of course meat isn't needed. But varied plants evidently are.

    The gelatin study only looked at 15 different protein sources, it was on RATS, and it is from 1964.

    Good job herding the sheeple.

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